"Ridicule is essentially the last weapon we have." - Michael Savage
Radio talk-show icon and Renaissance man Michael Savage has a new runaway best seller, "The Political Zoo," Go Here Now! and in the world of books it's a whole new animal.
Savage harnesses his extensive science background – he has a Ph.D. in epidemiology and nutritional science from the University of California at Berkeley – and with a barrel of caustic wit unapologetically lampoons 50 of today's most prominent political and cultural "beasts."
Savage is the nation's No. 1 independently syndicated talk-radio host, with 10 million weekly listeners and 350 radio stations coast to coast. He's also the author of the best-selling books "The Savage Nation," "The Enemy Within" and "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder."
The man who has been called "the nation's fiercest independent thinker" recently sat down with NewsMax's James Hirsen to talk about the book and a range of topical issues.
Hirsen: How are things going with your new book "The Political Zoo?" Usually there's a book tour, a promotion. When will we see you on the "Today" show?
Savage: There is no book tour. I'm blacklisted on every network. I'm blacklisted on every cable outlet. I'm blacklisted on virtually every radio show. This is a zero book tour. I am persona non grata, which is very odd considering they have murderers, rapists, child molesters. If Hitler came back, I'm sure Larry King would kill to have him on, but apparently not Michael Savage.
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Hirsen: You say you're banned. Are you even banned from Air America?
Savage: I wouldn't go on that network, but I wouldn't know whether I'm banned or not. I know that the phony conservative outlets on Fox will not have me, which is bizarre in the sense that they're supposed to be so conservative, which, of course, I don't believe for a second and I haven't for well over a year now.
Hirsen: So you're getting the word out through your radio show, and through outlets like NewsMax?
Savage: It's the right book at the right time, and the radio show is the dominant outlet. But then at a certain point I think people start talking about it, and showing it to friends. You'd think anybody would want it on because it's a visual book. It's made for television. It's got 50 cartoons in it. Wouldn't you think that would be a television-friendly book? Sure.
Hirsen: By the way, you begin with this quote from Aristotle — that "Man is a political animal" — and you're an observer of the human condition. Why do you think that so many people in our modern era are fascinated with politics considering the fact that there are so many other diversions around?
Savage: Well, in our country, because we realize that we've been hoodwinked and that not the best and the brightest, but sometimes it appears the worst and the dumbest, are running our country and not doing a very good job at that. And so they're almost in a state of panic and obsession. How can so many people fool themselves into believing that anyone believes a word they say? Look at the poll numbers. Bush's ratings are very low, but Congress is lower. So what does that say? The people are smarter than the politicians.
Hirsen: There's a lot of cynicism out there now. Do you think people disbelieve all politicians at the moment?
Savage: Well, how can they believe a politician when you have an issue like illegal immigration, where eight out of 10 people want the border sealed and the politicians keep pandering to a foreign nation? Or how can they have any faith in a system that doesn't have any faith in them?
Hirsen: What do you think about the fact that Congress is now as we speak taking up the issue of illegal immigration and supposedly, as Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says, "It's crunch time?"
Savage: Bill Frist is a front man for the very same powers that have broken our borders.
Hirsen: What should Congress do?
Savage: What the people want done. They want the military or National Guard on our border. Why is George Bush spending American lives defending the borders of Iraq and trying to create the sovereignty of Iraq at the same time he is not defending the borders of America and melting down the sovereignty of our nation?
Does that make sense to anybody on earth? So what the people want is the National Guard on the borders, with military vehicles, not permitting illegals and drugs to come through this country. Like what the Minutemen are doing; they're doing the work that the government is not doing.
Hirsen: The media and the politicians discuss this as a two-prong question, the first dealing with the borders, and the second dealing with the illegal aliens who are here in the country. What should we do about the millions who are here?
Savage: Why does everyone throw their hands up and say we can't deport them; it's not realistic? That's total rubbish. First of all, you can make it unattractive for them to be here, and they will start to self-deport. A good percentage of them will go home if we take away the benefits they're not entitled to, such as free health care, such as free legal advice, such as schooling for their children, which they're not entitled to. You take away health and education and a good percentage of them will not be coming here.
Also, you make their employers pay taxes on the salaries they're paying them, or the wages, rather. They're paying them $10 an hour. That's $6 an hour that's not being paid by the greedy employer in FICA taxes, state taxes, etc. The minute they start paying them $16 an hour . . . Americans will step up for a lot of the jobs that right now are going to them [illegal aliens].
The second part of it is, take the able-bodied bums off welfare and force them to pick the crops for their welfare check. I mean, let's be real. Nobody wants to do stoop labor. Nobody ever wanted to do it. But I keep reminding my audience of "The Grapes of Wrath." It's not illegal aliens who are picking the cherries in the central valley.
Hirsen: What about the situation where the parents are illegal but their progeny are legal because of the interpretation of the Constitution that creates "anchor babies?"
Savage: First of all, what we immediately have to do is eliminate the amendment, which allows anyone born in the country to be a citizen. Even socialist Canada once had, as near as five years ago, this insane rule if you were born there you became an instant citizen. What happened was Chinese were coming in eight-and-a-half months pregnant, giving birth on the plane, or giving birth when they landed. Even socialist Canada eliminated the amendment that permitted illegal aliens to dump a child on the shore and become an instant citizen.
So there's your answer.
Hirsen: Your prior books have dealt primarily with serious topics. So why did you decide to write a humor book?
Savage: It's a satire because the only power we have left is to ridicule the politicians, the celebrities, the media, and the so-called pundits. They think they're so powerful and that everybody believes them.
Hirsen: So you are attacking them by creating a zoo, turning them into animals, placing them into cages. And you are the zookeeper. Is this sort of a fantasy to have these folks locked up?
Savage: No, but I think most Americans who watch them posturing and cavorting and lying to them on the television screen envision them as just glorified zoo creatures. They don't believe a word they say. Dianne Feinstein is to be taken seriously on any issue when her husband, Mr. Blum, as my book points out, his portfolio went from about $500 million to $5 billion since she's been a U.S. Senator? I mean, Duke Cunningham just went to jail for lobbying on behalf of defense contractors, right?
Why don't they investigate senators, such as Boxer and Feinstein, whose family may, and I say may, have benefited from their tenure in office? Why do the Republicans have no capacity for that? Is it because they're compromised as well?
Hirsen: Comparing it to "American Idol," how did you choose the 50 "Animal Idols"?
Savage: That's very interesting. Some of them were left out, like you'll notice Ted Kennedy's not in there. The reason he is not in there is that he's so easy to caricature that he's caricatured himself.
Nancy Pelosi pretends to be caring about illegals and the poor, and she's the wealthiest woman in the House. I mean, who do they think they're fooling? They need to be talked about.
Schwarzenegger's in there and was given a strap-on horn in the drawing because he's an obvious rhino (RINO - Republican In Name Only), which is a well-known word. Underneath it he's really a donkey.
Hirsen: I noticed that when you talk about people who are despicable, you include in your book Kim Jong-Il, Jacque Chirac and Kofi Annan but left out Osama bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Zarquawi . . .
Savage: That's true. There's Volume Two right there. I left out Madeleine Albright, one of the most idiotic women in the history of American government.
Hirsen: What do you think will happen in November in terms of the congressional elections?
Savage: The Republicans are finished. They're going to have to get jobs as lobbyists. I don't know that there are enough lobby positions available for them, but since they've never worked, or haven't worked recently, many of them are going to be looking for jobs that Jack Abramoff may have once held.
It's a bloodbath; I mean they're going to be thrown out because they've not done what they said they would do. They violated their voters who voted for them to be the alternative to the socialist Democrats. Instead they got the same thing.
Hirsen: Do you think Bush will be impeached?
Savage: Never. First of all, I'm totally opposed to it for a lot of reasons. But secondly, it'll never happen. It's a waste of America's time. It would be very bad for the nation.
Hirsen: Is there anything about "The Political Zoo" that you would like people to know? Why should they buy the book?
Savage: They can't afford not to have the book. It's the only power they have now over the politicians, the media pundits, and the entertainment morons. Ridicule is essentially the last weapon we have.